i left this comment below as a response to someone on youtube.. i thought i'd share it here because i wrote a lot
i know its crazy that i left a comment this long but i suppose that's a result of this being a topic of interest for me you are saying both parties should be committed, and that each should play a role.. that is true but it is a bit of an oversimplification of the problem.. what mgtows are made up of is men who did their part but didn't receive a corresponding reciprocation.. when considering the reasons why they didn't receive it, feminism is typically blamed.. why? the reason mgtows blame feminism is because it is the default mindset for women in a gynocentric society.. it is all over tv, movies, in colleges, even unfortunately in some churches.. so what happens is, even women who don't consider themselves feminists- end up having the same ideals (and therefore actions) as feminists.. what this means is in the modern era when men and women come together, on average women are pre-programmed to not be good to men.. you can't minimize the fact that we've had over 40 yrs of feminism that have permeated society.. that is why it's an oversimplification to just say "men and women should be good and mgtows are selfish" ..the problem is modern women are not programmed to treat men in a way that is conducive to a healthy relationship feminism is literally a satanic belief system from the standpoint that these are the things it pushes for and promotes: abortion, sexual promiscuity (which is synonymous unfaithfulness/infidelity), pride/selfishness and male/female role reversal women are literally programmed to do the opposite of what they should do today.. feminism's objective is to create weak men and strong women.. so women compete with men instead of cooperate with men.. women are not soft they are hardened and uncaring.. women are not humble they are arrogant, this is not an insult to women it is an insult to the programming that women have received mgtow men have seen this and decided to create a new way of life because each "relationship" ends up being almost like a continual substance abuse intervention.. where we try to deprogram a woman and get her to see that we are not her enemy but society's narrative wins out.. for example, my ex g/f interpreted my protection as "control" ..and no amount of explaining got her to understand that there is a difference between the two.. because feminism has control over narratives simple things like these drive a permanent wedge between a man and a woman there are countless big and small interactions that show us we can't reach women anymore.. there have been times where i've been scolded for offering to pick up something heavy for a woman.. over time, this causes us to just say ok forget it.. ok i believe you, you don't need a man, you are independent.. the next step from there is removing our interest from women and placing it on self.. not because we don't care, but because we cannot actually force women to allow us to care.. if we try to, we will inevitably be taken advantage of.. hence the reason why i say mgtow is full of good men.. we have TRIED.. but some knots are so complicated you just reach for scissors so again, when u say "men and women should both be unselfish and should be committed" you are right but we have been trying this already.. we are not respected or honored in this climate, we are stepped on.. "you're too nice" "women like badboys" "nice guys finish last" WE HAVE TRIED.. if being a good upstanding man actually worked then mgtow wouldn't exist.. women see that man as like a "boy scout" (keyword boy) or a tool to be used as opposed to man to be honored i'm not promoting that pump and dump lifestyle of some mgtows but i do promote understanding the culture and making necessary changes to our approach to life and women because we have been being abused for a long time and that's over with, we can't be as nice, trusting, and patient as we once may have been.. some mgtows are pump and dump guys and some are monks and some just create new parameters, and learn how to overcome our desires since they can be taken advantage of.... but one thing all mgtow have in commmon is- the days of us entering relationships with a flower behind our back while women enter with a knife behind theirs are over
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